Breeding question


Jiminy Kling
June 29, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago

Wandering on the markets, i noticed some awesome cute pink and violets mossms from Faunarosa. Looking closer i see all those come from same parents
http://mossms.com/p/Onagh.ashbourne/mossm/Georgie/
http://mossms.com/p/Onagh.ashbourne/mossm/Faunie/
http://mossms.com/p/Onagh.ashbourne/mossm/Morlee/
http://mossms.com/p/Onagh.ashbourne/mossm/Eugenio/

The parents have been bred 5 times and gave 4 pink and/or violet babies. So i wonder if there is something im missing about how the colors come in from the planet here? i thought that was random but looking at that exemple, what are the odds... (assuming pink and violet are harder to get than black on blackstarlight, that is also harder to get than green on toxito, etc. At least that is how i understood it). I just wanna know if i missed something, if there is some trigger i dont know maybe?

Ty for your answer

Zues Burali
June 29, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago

Good Question

Asymmetrical
June 29, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago

The odds are the same for every color. Black is no more difficult to get than white or green, at least as odds are concerned. The resource costs for mating on those planets is higher which may be toying with perception a little but the actual odds on all colors is the same.

That said, mating two mossms together 10 times on the same planet each time should net (on average) 3 of the color from that planet. There are two colors on that planet so these Mossms look pretty normal to me.

Jiminy Kling
June 29, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago

Ok so the colors have same percent to pop on all planet but the blends are harder to get from one planet to another if i understood well then?
Just to be clear, here in that exemple up you say its just luck, nothing more?
Now about the blends and the parents being 53% chances in the pool, i have in mind an exemple of a moonstars, bred 9 times, 5 times on blackstarlight, 3 on mossmpolis, 1 on catania, and she still never passed her blend. She has 1 oofm left, i would appreciate to know a bit more how to handle the blends regarding the "parents represent 53%" in the breed, or do that means im just very unlucky person? Ty

Asymmetrical
June 29, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago

I'm afraid I don't understand your question. Can you link the Mossm in question and tell me what your goal for the Mossm is? I can then take a look at the blood line and offer some advice based on what I see.

Jiminy Kling
June 29, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago

ok so here the mossm im talking about http://mossms.com/p/Jiminy.kling/mossm/Mistie/

and all the babies she got
http://mossms.com/p/Brokenheart.denver/mossm/Aubree/
http://mossms.com/p/Brokenheart.denver/mossm/Ernie/
http://mossms.com/p/Brokenheart.denver/mossm/Justis/
http://mossms.com/p/Brokenheart.denver/mossm/Morse/

http://mossms.com/p/Jiminy.kling/mossm/Fabuloso/
http://mossms.com/p/Jiminy.kling/mossm/Moonstars.DOS/
http://mossms.com/p/Jiminy.kling/mossm/Mia/
and a blue one i cant show cause its back to space lol

I know she is the only one having moonstars, so its not strong in the pool, but being the parent, i thought that would count for more in the mix of possibilities. And that she would at least pass her blend maybe twice on ten, something like that. But regarding the results, i see its not working that way so i dont really understand how those blends work, seems they dont pass same way than colors, allright, but havin it on the parent should at least pass once i thought, cause if not where is the relability?
Ty

Callie Tigerpaw
June 30, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago

Well the problem with that and I have fallen into that too...is that if its so much roulette/chance involved the secondary market will again suffer an additional hit....I've found that myself..I've bought for a few thousand lindens os of Moonstars and they didn't pass....So this mossmeer won't be buying more OS of the rarer blends. And now seeing what happened to you, Jiminy I guess you need to have a pair to get it to pass? :((

Aloriana Shadowstar
June 30, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago

Lets say the moonstar has 30% chance to pass. That does not mean that out of 10 babies, 3 will be moonstars. it measn that with everytime you breed you have again 30% chance.

You had bad luck I do not think there is more than that at work. I mean I have had tigers where both parents are tighers and then 8 in the ancestry.....throw blues :)

~Alor

Panny
June 30, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago

I also have a question, and that is having the "planet as parent". If a mossm is bred on the 4th planet, but is, for example, a plain white, will it ever, in breeding, have a chance for any of the 4th planet colors if bred on planets 1-3?

Asymmetrical
June 30, 2013
10 years, 10 months ago
Edited 10 years, 10 months ago by Asymmetrical

Jiminy, the problem is this: this mossm, in isolation, has a 17.66 chance to pass one of its traits which can be found in the DNA scan and are:

yellowgreen (color 1)
skin (fur type)
darkblue (color 2)
skin (fur type 2)
moonstars (blend).

Thats 5 traits that could pass AND the colors are weighted heavier than the blends.

What you need to do is build blood lines similar to what Ive been doing here: http://mossms.com/p/Asymmetrical/mossm/Winny/. The more blends you put in the background the more likely you are to get that blend when you mate it.

I will not lie. It takes careful planning to do this but the luck factor begins to fade once stack the ancestry with the traits you want to pass. The trick here is patience, careful planning and organization. A blend can pass with reasonable reliability once you build the blood line. Keep in mind though, moonstars are the 2nd hardest blend to get it will take some time to build the line.

Panny, a mossm born on planet 4 does not have any hidden traits from the planet on which it was conceived. It can pass what you see in its DNA scan and nothing more.

Hope that helps both of you!


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